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#1 Judy Groverman Walker

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 05:25 PM

This is the discussion topic for the wiki article: 1st Annual Wine Country Big Q

#2 Abel Tirre

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 12:40 PM

Wow BBQ all day Saturday and wine tasting on Sunday what can be better!

Do you happen to have dedicated hotel your working with for the event? I would like to judge and book a room and just spend the weekend up north.

Ohh and btw the website is amazing!! Tons of great info including all the forms

http://winecountrybigq.com/

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 01:24 PM

I was really excited about this event until I read that teams are required to compete in people's choice.

My observation is that less than half the teams ever participate in it. A good number of the teams that opt out are top competitors.

Based on my team's experiences with PC, we now always choose to opt out for the following reasons: 1) its a big distraction from the competition, 2) health department rules require specialized equipment and are a hassle to deal with, 3) its hard to deal with the public after staying up cooking all night, 4) you don't make much money (usually less than $100) if all you are selling is left over competition BBQ meat, and 5) we don't have space on our cookers to cook extra meat.

A good number of the teams that participate in PC are professional caterers who are set up very well to do it. These are the folks who usually make good money at events. Most backyard cooks, who comprise the majority of competitors, are not set up well to do it.

I imagine volunteer assistance for PC will be something that most teams will be uninterested in. Inviting a stranger into your cooksite to participate can create a number of problems. Generally, cooksites are sacred places. Teams are usually very protective of them.

I fear that this event will not be successful as a serious BBQ competition if PC remains mandatory.

Other than this one major concern, it sounds like a really good event.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 01:54 PM

I have to agree with Jason on pretty mch everything he said. Not sure if the success of the event will be tied into the particapation of smaller teams or not. But I look at PC pretty much the same way although mostly for me it comes down to equipment and cooker space.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:59 PM

I have to say as a team who does do PC to try and recoup money for the contests, a 50-50 split with prices for the cost of a contest, meat, gas, is a losing situation for the BBQ team. Our team is interested in this contest and we dont mind the mandatory pc, but the 50-50 split very well could keep us out of this.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:22 PM

So just wondering if/and what teams are doing this contest?

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:27 PM

View PostBill Souza, on 06 June 2011 - 05:22 PM, said:

So just wondering if/and what teams are doing this contest?
We are likely in if:
1) It gets TOY status (i.e. KCBS membership requirement is dropped), and
2) The PC requirement is dropped or the split is improved.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:40 PM

View PostKevin Barteaux, on 06 June 2011 - 06:27 PM, said:

We are likely in if:
1) It gets TOY status (i.e. KCBS membership requirement is dropped), and
2) The PC requirement is dropped or the split is improved.

Same here.

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 05:27 AM

I looked at the application and although PC is "strongly encouraged" there is a box you can check saying you are unable to vend. I don't know if that would affect your chances of your application being accepted...

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 06:46 AM

Ya...looks like they changed it.

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 08:19 AM

I see they still have the KCBS member requirement under the rules and regs:

"One member of the applicant team must be a member of KCBS ($35 fee)."

Does anyone know if they still intend to change that requirement and whether or not they will be appying for TOY status?

#12 Ben Lobenstein

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 08:29 AM

View PostKevin Barteaux, on 15 June 2011 - 08:19 AM, said:

I see they still have the KCBS member requirement under the rules and regs:

"One member of the applicant team must be a member of KCBS ($35 fee)."

Does anyone know if they still intend to change that requirement and whether or not they will be appying for TOY status?

They have applied for CBBQA ToY

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 10:13 AM

View PostBen Lobenstein, on 15 June 2011 - 08:29 AM, said:

They have applied for CBBQA ToY
Do you know if they have been informed that they will not qualify with that requirement (assuming that is true)?

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 05:40 PM

View PostKevin Barteaux, on 15 June 2011 - 08:19 AM, said:

I see they still have the KCBS member requirement under the rules and regs:

"One member of the applicant team must be a member of KCBS ($35 fee)."

Does anyone know if they still intend to change that requirement and whether or not they will be appying for TOY status?

The organizers were under the impression that it was required by KCBS but after being informed otherwise, they will be removing the requirement for their event.

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 09:26 PM

According to the BOD meeting tonight, once that provision is out they will be awarded TOY sanctioning.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:59 AM

Anyone know if they will they still be limiting to 25 teams?

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 09:41 AM

No change on the web site, and after viewing the site, I would think 25 or so should do it, but who knows, if the response is overwhelming? I think that they are also inviting a restaraunt division, not sure if they are included in the 25?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 02:13 PM

Has anybody heard anything about this contest? Are teams on the fence for this one or just hold out til last minute?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 03:29 PM

Everything is at the last minute now
Come on who's next? :)

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 10:19 PM

As soon as I see a judge app, im signing up.




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